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 | MikeD.
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 15 Eastern Ontario 
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2003-12-29 72541
I want to get a spreader for sand, salt, or stone dust or chips for our lane and yard. It will be a 3pth for my TC33D. I was first considering the cone type fertilizer spreader that I see sold under various names (Befco, Harco, etc.,) but when I went to see a local dealer about buying one in his yard, he said for my use, a Herd 750 would be better. He said sand "bridges" and won't flow down to the bottom, but the Herd overcomes this. The Herd is about 3 times the cost, and the agitator I have seen on these cone machines looks agressive enough (about 14 inches long, with rubber wheel on the end) so I'd like to try to get away with the cone type.
Has anyone had experience with either model, for this purpose? Another dealer suggested a Herd M96, but it looks pretty small, and not very heavy duty.
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 | jasonsewell
Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 34 Plainville, CT USA
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2004-01-04 73064
The "Cone" style spreaders are just fine for the salt and stonedust, as long as the stonedust from your area is not to coarse. The chips you are referring to must mean wood chips??? I don't think that will work too well. Now to sand. If you use sand in one of those spreaders, it must be a real fine sand, not "angular" sand like concrete sand. What is reffered to as "sugar" sand, will flow fine, assuming the material is dry and not wet. Any wet sand will bind up causing what is referred to as "tunneling". hope this helps.
Jason Sewell ....
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| MikeD.
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 15 Eastern Ontario
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2004-01-10 73629
By "chips" I meant stone chips, (around here that's 3/8" crushed quarry stone, clean, no fines). I thought that might be good, because it would always be dry with no small material in it to hold water and freeze.
The dealer brought over a Harco cone-type the other day and I experimented with sand and stone dust (again, around here, that's crushed qarry stone, smaller than 3/8" with all the fines in it). The stone dust did the best job, but I decided to order the Herd 750. The Harco did ok, but flung the material to far. I had to have the tractor idled right down to do the lane, and it still covered about 25 feet. For the times I will use salt, I'd rather not put it directly on the grass. The Herd is "supposed" to have a slower spinner. ....
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 | tk_csa
Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 28 western New York
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2004-01-10 73668
I bought (3 years ago) a Balti-matic ($400+) with high hopes of spreading sand on my 1400' drive. Forget it. Sand will bridge and the agitator will spin in the middle. Ended up buying a Western Pro Flow II. Has a small conveyor in the bottom. All 12v. Put it on my plow truck, 98 GMC 1 ton dump. It works the way it is SUPPOSED to. Bad news; $2200 new. Got mine used from a bud for $1050. ....
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 | Wildman1
Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 196 Chugiak, Alaska
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2004-02-12 76694
I have a Work Saver cone spreader with the optional agitator and it works very well. You're right about spreading too wide a swath, even idled down, so I put deflectors on each side of the spray wheel, which settled things down to about a 30 degree swath out the back. It does still get some material outside the bounds of a 10' wide driveway.
Even the F1 chip will tunnel if it's wet and freezes. As long as it's not frozen it flows fine. Sand is a pain unless totally dry. But polished sand tends to wash off the surface during melting periods. The chip has jagged surfaces and tends to stick pretty well. ....
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 | grinder
Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 677 central Maine 
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2004-02-12 76698
Why don't you mix the salt and sand together? This will
keep it from freezing. Keep a tarp over the pile or in
a 55 gal drum on edge. ....
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 | 44trxfun
Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 110 western NY
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2004-02-12 76755
Haven't tried it myself, but I've heard that some of the common fertilizers (e.g. 10-10-10) are pretty effective at melting ice/snow. If that's the case, and that's your application, it might open some options for a spreader... ....
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| Wildman1
Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 196 Chugiak, Alaska
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2004-02-13 76757
I keep my spreader topped off with F1 chip.(ballast as well) I never know when we'll have freezing rain or a thaw/freeze cycle this time of year. I thought of mixing salt into the F1 but unless I empty it out completely soon there would be a corrosion problem.
Same with fertilizer. I only load when I intend to dump it all and then wash the spreader & spray it with anti-corrosion fluid. ....
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| grinder
Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 677 central Maine
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2004-02-13 76761
Maybe a stainless or heavy plastic ? Are those available? ....
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 | Murf
Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 7249 Toronto Area, Ontario, Canada 
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2004-02-13 76777
That's why we have gone to liquid ice melters almost exclusively now.
Liquid CaCl is far less of a nuisance to deal with than bulk salt or sand or any combination. Leftover material can stay on the spray unit for weeks without any problem at all, corrosion is eliminated as damage to concrete or plants.
Best of luck. ....
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